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LRC - 26.08.2006, 08:07 Uhr
Titel: fglrx died installing new kernel
I upgraded to the newest kernel (2.17.11 up version). Everything was going along fine until I asked for ati (my video card) driver. It downloaded the stuff needed and then came up some dpkg errors (I believe it was something about package fglrx-(kernel2.17.11???)). I cannot remember what they are because a) it went by quite fast and b) they were off the screen before I could fully see them. Needless to say kdm cannot work. I do have full text capability, so if there is anyone out there who can get my video working again. I would be very thankful. Warning: I am a noobie who is just getting confortable with linux, GUI based. I am a very mediocre text based operator.
h2 - 26.08.2006, 08:52 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
If you didn't do it already, you need to run this:
update-scripts-kanotix.sh
then run this again"
install-fglrx-debian.sh
See if that helps, if not, I'm not sure what the next step is. Please post what kanotix version you are using, what kernel, if you have upgraded the system with dist-upgrade, and if so, when you last did it.
piper - 26.08.2006, 09:28 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Type in konsole
cat /etc/kanotix-version - kanotix version
uname -a - show Kernel and OS
and post that info here, along with the anwers to the other questions h2 asked 
Remember, after each kernel upgrade you have to reinstall video drivers.
LRC - 26.08.2006, 14:04 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
I had run a full dist-upgrade with no probs with kernel 2.6.17.8-shl-up-1 I then ran kanotix-update-gui I upgraded to kernel 2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 (uname info is kernel 2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 #1 PREEMT Thur Aug 24 02:00:01 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linhux, . I was inform is was installed properly, the gui then asked me if I wanted it to do its magic, which I said yes to. On the reboot, it did its magic, through the configuring of the sound card, but when it hit the videocard selection feature, at which point I selected ati (my videocard) it continued downloaded the apts it wanted, and then installed them, or rather tried to install them. There was a failure with with installing at that point, which ment of course, no videocard, and no gui, running scripts now to see what happens.
LRC - 26.08.2006, 15:05 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Forgot to specify time. About Aug 26, 2006 - 12 AM EDT. Am in now in ATI installer/packager, removing purging files, got it this time. Installing flgrx-control fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 xorg-driver-flgrx. Dependency probs prevent configuration of , depends on and therefore removing flgrx-control fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 xorg-driver-flgrx. Ran the same scripts with kernel 2.6.17.8-shl-up-1 running and found the same prob, but then I decided to say no instead of yeas to to removal and it loaded fine, as far as loading kdm was concerned, didn't try anything else. So I rebooted back to the kernel 2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 and retried install-fglrx-debian.sh and gave me the same dependency errors, said no this time to removal and kdm proceed to load. All I can say is that something is strange going on and does this mean fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 acually got configured correctly, or that something is going to bite me later on, and is the a conflict or an apt dependency prob I could have with one of flgrx-control fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 xorg-driver-flgrx that is not showing up that could be causing a prob? Looked at Kpackage shows all three with a question mark, also each one says under status installed ok unpacked. Ran fixup and all it wanted to do is remove them. I can live with it at the moment if that is all its gouing to happen, but I don't like it when things are left hanging like that, because I know one of these days something will happen to another apt that I want to remove and apt-get will take advantage of the situation and remove thiose three also. I have no clue as to whether it is a bug or not, but I would like to find out.
piper - 26.08.2006, 15:11 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
You didn't by chance mess with xorg 7.1 ? or try to install it ?
LRC - 26.08.2006, 15:24 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
The version of xorg I have is 1:7.0.23 and xserver-xorg-core is version 2:1.0.2-10 which was also in the news, I didn't do any upgrades until the all clear was given.
Kano - 26.08.2006, 16:35 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
You have to rerun the fglrx script after every kernel change.
LRC - 26.08.2006, 17:02 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Found out what the prob is. fglrx has crashed my kcontrol and on tring to do a reinstall with aptitude I got this:
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 2958kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
fglrx-control: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.999.2-11 is installed.
xorg-driver-fglrx: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.999.2-11 is installed.
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-slh-up-1
xorg-driver-fglrx
Downgrade the following packages:
fglrx-control [8.28.8-1 (now) -> 8.24.8-1 (unstable, unstable,
unstable, unstable, unstable, unstable)]
Found this on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/ind ... 04245.html talking about libc6 (>= 2.4-1) problems. Is there another ATI driver I could use in the mean time, or is there some work around I could use?
LRC - 26.08.2006, 20:42 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Update. Finding that almost all GUI apts are toast. Browsers do work though which is nice to know.
LRC - 27.08.2006, 04:26 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Out of desperation, I came across dpkg-reconfigure --all and took a chance. It has cleared up the prob I was having with all my GUI apts. Acually I stopped part way through because things were getting really bad. Rebooting and right now things aren't too bad. BIG prob now is that until the dependancy thing is staightened up or there is a way of getting a different working driver I can use, I am toast as far as removing, installing or upgrading is concerned. Would you have an idea as to when a fix could be had?
LRC - 27.08.2006, 04:55 Uhr
Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Don't suppose libc6 (2.4-1ubuntu9) would be a very good idea wouuld it? NAAAH
Hack-o-Master - 27.08.2006, 10:48 Uhr
Titel:
Why did you use the (alpha) libc6-2.4 (2.3.999.2-11) from the experimental repository ??. The normal Kanotix (Debian/sid) libc6 is (at the time of this writing) 2.3.6.ds1-4 :
Code:
root@Jacobsen:/home/jacobsen# apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev locales
libc6:
Installiert:2.3.6.ds1-4
Mögliche Pakete:2.3.6.ds1-4
Versions-Tabelle:
2.3.999.2-11 0
120 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main Packages
*** 2.3.6.ds1-4 0
990 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.3.6-15 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
libc6-dev:
Installiert:2.3.6.ds1-4
Mögliche Pakete:2.3.6.ds1-4
Versions-Tabelle:
2.3.999.2-11 0
120 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main Packages
*** 2.3.6.ds1-4 0
990 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.3.6-15 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
locales:
Installiert:2.3.6.ds1-4
Mögliche Pakete:2.3.6.ds1-4
Versions-Tabelle:
2.3.999.2-11 0
120 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main Packages
*** 2.3.6.ds1-4 0
990 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.3.6-15 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
Downgrade to the (normal Debian/sid) libc6 in a text-Console (without running KDE/X-Windows) with:
Code:
apt-get install --reinstall libc6/unstable libc6-dev/unstable locales/unstable
mfg. Hack-o-Master
LRC - 27.08.2006, 21:49 Uhr
Titel:
Well, now I am in a real bind. Downgraded libc6 libc6-dev and locales, but at the same time because of apt-get's need to resolve probs first, it removed fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-slh-up-1 and xorg-driver-fglrx, but I figured that all I would have to do is run install-fglrx-debian.sh again which would fix any probs that removing fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-slh-up-1 and xorg-driver-fglrx would cause. Big prob is that when I tried that. I got this error [: 33: ==: unexpected operator
/usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh: 69: Syntax error: Bad substitution. Ran update-scripts-kanotix.sh and all it said was that I have latest file. I am very good at braking things.
LRC - 28.08.2006, 05:02 Uhr
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Well. Stupidity can realy muck one up. While I was running dpkg -reconfig I got enamoured with dash. Ooooops 
. That fixed my last post. I have to give h2 a big thankyou and a round of applause for his du-fixed. 
ran graphics and also probably Hack-o-Master suggestion also of downgrading to unstable pulled in drapper instead of edgy so that every thing is sitting pretty. Now to clean out some of that stuff dpkg -reconfig decided that I desperately needed.
piper - 28.08.2006, 11:40 Uhr
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If I was you, I would seriously leave it alone.
Run apt-get clean & apt-get autoclean
This is not Unbutu, I have no idea why you are installing stuff from "drapper" or "edgy"
Anytime you do install anything related to ubuntu, you will b0rk your system !
LRC - 28.08.2006, 18:04 Uhr
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Everything is running fine now, but when I ran into trouble all I did was run kanotix-update-gui, and I noticed that the site it was pulling the fglrx files were from ubuntu, I have no clue why? Is there some way of replacing those files with debian so that this doesn't happen in the future? I must say that this was an interesting learning experiance.
ockham23 - 28.08.2006, 18:08 Uhr
Titel:
What's in /etc/apt/sources.list?
LRC - 28.08.2006, 18:58 Uhr
Titel:
I am not at my box right now, but I do know I have no ubuntu sites, and other then specialty sites, such as kanotix, they are debian mirrors (I have several listed just because the sites themselves occasionally have gliches, and it is always nice to have an alternative)
etorix - 29.08.2006, 03:45 Uhr
Titel: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
are you mixing ubuntu and debian?
cos that, im afraid, is REALLY SILLY
stop it now
DeepDayze - 29.08.2006, 04:25 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
I don't think mixing debian repos is always a good idea...as some repos may use diff dependencies for their packages that could possibly BREAK your system.
LRC - 29.08.2006, 05:53 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
I am not intentionally. I have spent over an hour checking most of my packages. I found an **censored** (censored they proper name of the pkg) skin pkg, a java fonts pkg, and a screen-saver (which I am purging now), WHY AM I THE STUPID IDIOT WHEN ALL I DID WAS USE KANOTIX-UPDATE-GUI WHICH YOU GUYS HIGHLY RECOMMEND WHICH WAS THE SCRIPT THAT STARTED THE WHOLE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE BY TRYING TO LOAD ONTO MY MACHINE A GRAPHICS PACKAGE WITH DEPENDENCY PROBLEMS FROM AN UBUNTU SITE. Now I know oneis not suppose to shout, but you started shouting atme and calling me stupid in the first place. I do not have any ubuntu sites listed in my sources list. I have no clueas to why YOUR script downloaded from ubuntu other then I made a mistake when doing a dist-upgrade by allowing it to upgrade a couple of my files from unstable. I fixed that. But if the scripts that you guys are so proud of for upgrading kernels (which I am very thankful), cannot check for dependencies, this problem will occationally occur. Maybe instead of shouting at each other and calling people names, we can learn from this and improve the product even more. By the way I did check the maintainers for flgrx and it is ATI, but if you check their dependencies, you will find (although it does not say so) based on ubuntu, because the version that kanotix-update-gui first pulled had a dependency that only exists in ubuntu. Try a machine with an ATI card on it put libc6 (2.3.999.2-11) on it and see for yourself what happens (unless of course there has to be other factors involved of which I have no clue, time or knowledge). I do thank each of you for you input in resolving my difficulties.
piper - 29.08.2006, 06:07 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
My machine
piper@KanotixBox:~$ infobash -v3
Host/Kernel/OS "KanotixBox" running Linux 2.6.17.11-kanotix-1 i686 [ KANOTIX 2006 Easter ]
CPU Info AMD Athlon XP 2400+ 256 KB cache flags( - ) clocked at [ 2000.448 MHz ]
Videocard ATI Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] X.Org 7.0.23 [ 1024x768 @85hz ]
Network cards VIA VT6102 [Rhine-II], at port: e400
Processes 87 | Uptime 10:58 | Memory 697.938/756.859MB | HDD Maxtor 6Y160P0 Size 163GB (61%used) | GLX Renderer RADEON 9800 Pro Generic | GLX Version 2.0.6011 (8.28.8) | Client Shell | Infobash v2.50rc15
It is a ATI driver and is NOT ubuntu, although the "header file" says ubuntu/dapper, it is not ubuntu.
The libc6, I have no idea where you got that from, I can take a guess, "maybe" experimental (xorg 7.1) , not sure, i had 7.1 and don't remember that, but I know you did not get that buy running the ATI script as this forum and IRC would be flooded with the same problem. I run ATI myself. Maybe someone else can explain better than me.
LRC - 29.08.2006, 07:44 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
I don't think I got it from the ATI script. It might have been in a foolish moment when I included expermental in preferences then thought better of it but not before (2.3.999.2-11) snuck in. But I do know that when I ran kanotix-update-gui the first time everything went sour on me, the version that got loaded had as a dependency 2.4, and the only place I could find that version was in edgy, and that is the only reason that this particular part of the discussion got started. I had nothing to do with wanting that version of fglrx, I had no choice , and like I pointed out before the whole thing got straightened out when someone kindly pointed out to me that I had a bad version of libc6 loaded. By the way I think I was one of those hit by xorg 7.1 so it might have been then that libc6 got introduced. As things are going fine now may I suggest the subject closed.
piper - 29.08.2006, 14:39 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Well, I think you learned something here. (nothing wrong with mistakes and learning)
In the future you may want to Read and Use h2's script for dist-upgrading and kernel, and videocard upgrading.
Kano - 29.08.2006, 16:25 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
My script selects Ubuntu/Dapper for Xorg 6.9 and 7.0 and Ubuntu/Edgy for 7.1. Mainly because these targets are well tested and the Debian targets are not. In order to use em i would have to fix em (I have a fix in it for Debian/experimental but prefer the Edgy target). You would not get another driver with another target. Just the package names differ a little bit.
LRC - 29.08.2006, 19:03 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Kano I am very greatful for all your hard work. Without it I would find linux intimidating. I also understood from the beginning why you picked the sites you did. I just got hit at a very bad time as far as packages was concerned, and because of my very limited experience, had no knowledge as to how to get around my broken package prob. I still think that as far as OS systems are concerned. The debian version of Linux is the best out there, not only from what it can do right now but the vast improvements that have been made in the last 4 months alone.
morris - 22.09.2006, 15:49 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Seems like the current fglrx script cannot detect my old ati card. My long story short:
I always try to keep my system "current" , so I used h2's script to d-u it several times now. Before this last d-u I was running the latest stable kernel 2.6.17.13-slh-up-1 with the reinstalled fglrx already, with no troubles at all.
After this last d-u I was unable to finish the graphics part of the script, for the script gave me an error message of no ati cards on my system. Re-runnig the original script from Kano, outside h2's procedure, gave me (obviously) the same message.
Any idea ?
My system from infobash:
Host/Kernel/OS "VortexA" running Linux 2.6.17.13-slh-up-1 i686 [ KANOTIX 2005-04 LITE ]
CPU Info Intel Pentium 4 512 KB cache flags( - ) clocked at [ 2400.025 MHz ]
Videocard ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY X.Org 7.1.0 [ 1024x768 @60hz ]
Network cards Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+, at port: 7000
Processes 85 | Uptime 2:01 | Memory 294.949/502.918MB | HDD TOSHIBA MK3017GAP Size 30GB (60%used) | Client Shell | Infobash v2.50rc17
P.S.: On a different machine with a slightly newer ati card (9700), I had no problems at all.
TKS a lot.
morris
Kano - 22.09.2006, 19:40 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
For a few minutes that script did not accept legacy r200 cards, but currently it does accept r200 and newer. Show me this:
lspci -n|grep 0300:
morris - 22.09.2006, 22:56 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
lspci -n|grep 0300:
01:00.0 0300: 1002:4c59
Hope this helps.
Thank You for answering, Kano.
morris
Kano - 22.09.2006, 23:43 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Impossible that your card ever was supported by fglrx driver. Thats a RV100 card, not even R200.
morris - 23.09.2006, 14:00 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Kano,
I'm sure you're right and I've no reasons and no skills to dispute your analysis, but maybe just for wizardry, I'm sure fglrx was someway running till this last update.
I used to test it again some game, like chromium, just to test the accel functions. Before the d-u the game was graphically fluid, after it was not.
And, before this last d-u, the compilation of fglrx was giving me a go condition for each of its steps till the shell prompt.
After all, I had to recompile it when I updated the kernel at least, and all went very well then ..... .
I can live with it, just a tech perplexity, and be it clear, you're doing a great work with kanotix and I'm a happy user, ati or not.
Thanks, anyway.
morris
BTW: I gave a second run to h2's script, to verify the error message it gives me. First, it recognizes my card in the "graphics driver installer" section as 2) radeon, which is as usual; Second, after processing /etc/X11/xorg.conf it hangs on "installing radeon/fglrx driver now" with an "Error: No ATI RADEON/FIREGL adapter found." message.
morris - 25.09.2006, 20:11 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Small update.
After further (little) investigation, I found this last d-u left me with xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.6.2-2 installed, but *not* any of the other fglrx packages available (six), and namely fglrx-driver 8.28.8-1.
If I select that driver, it tries to remove the whole xorg installation.
At this point I don't know if this is what xorg is supposed to have installed, or something failed during my d-u, or is a matter to sit and wait for some xorg bug to be corrected .....
Any clue would be really appreciated.
morris
Swynndla - 25.09.2006, 22:04 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
xorg is being updated bit by bit so I can only suggest that you keep updating until it settles down.
Kano - 25.09.2006, 22:20 Uhr
Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
You may not install fglrx on your system, that's absolutely wrong and your card was never supported by fglrx!
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