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JumpyLINUX - 28.08.2006, 20:32 Uhr
Titel: No sound.
When runnig the live cd everything work. And now with the installation many things don't work. This time it's my sound card. When I try to play an mp3 file I hear nothing. Any ideas on that?
ockham23 - 28.08.2006, 20:43 Uhr
Titel: RE: No sound.
Yes, one of the usual suspects is Kmix. I took me some time to figure out the right settings. If you post some information on your sound card, maybe someone can help you right away.
piper - 28.08.2006, 20:59 Uhr
Titel: RE: No sound.
In konsole type alsaconf


Then go to K-Menu > Multimedia > and click on Kmix , it will shoot to the lower right corner on the kicker, right click on it, click on show mixer window, in output make sure the 2 sliders are up all the way, then hit input and adjust accordingly > then go to settings >configure kmix > hit apply > reboot
wh7qq - 29.08.2006, 05:46 Uhr
Titel: RE: No sound.
On Asus k8u-x motherboard (Semperon 32), no sound...no card detected. No help running alsaconf...runs and says "Have Fun", but no joy. I had previously gotten this board to work on 2005-04 by doing the following:
modprobe snd_intel8x0 buggy_semaphore=1

and modifying /etc/modprobe.d/sound to read
"options snd_intel8x0=0" by appending "buggy_semaphore=1" to that string. It does no good on Easter...no sound at all.

lspci -v output:


00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5455 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 20)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 810d
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 3
I/O ports at c800 [size=256]
Memory at faeff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

Any new tricks for this out there?
JumpyLINUX - 29.08.2006, 14:53 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: No sound.
piper hat folgendes geschrieben::
In konsole type alsaconf


Then go to K-Menu > Multimedia > and click on Kmix , it will shoot to the lower right corner on the kicker, right click on it, click on show mixer window, in output make sure the 2 sliders are up all the way, then hit input and adjust accordingly > then go to settings >configure kmix > hit apply > reboot


This had no affect.
piper - 29.08.2006, 15:00 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: No sound.
JumpyLINUX

You do have line-in activated right. (in kmix)

What soundcard do you have ? Is it onboard ?

wh7qq

Does sound work on the live cd ?
JumpyLINUX - 29.08.2006, 16:40 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: No sound.
piper hat folgendes geschrieben::

You do have line-in activated right. (in kmix)

Yeas if you mean "Capture *". Or do you mean the green led above the "Master" scrollbar - that's lit allright.
On the ouput tab I have "Master", "PCM" and "Capture Mux" and all are turned to 100.

piper hat folgendes geschrieben::

What soundcard do you have ? Is it onboard ?

It's an itegrated soundcard. I have an Acer Travelmate 3004.

piper hat folgendes geschrieben::

Does sound work on the live cd ?

I doesn't work on Kanotix live cd but works right away with no tweaks on Knoppix live cd.
ockham23 - 29.08.2006, 16:44 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No sound.
Suggestion: Make a screenshot of Knoppix' KMix settings and compare it with KMix settings of your hd install.
JumpyLINUX - 29.08.2006, 17:01 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No sound.
ockham23 hat folgendes geschrieben::
Suggestion: Make a screenshot of Knoppix' KMix settings and compare it with KMix settings of your hd install.


That did not help. I looked the hardware information in KMix...
Sound drivers supported> ALSA + OSS
sound drivers used> ALSA


Does that help? Can I check other places for soundcard configurations from Knoppix?
wh7qq - 29.08.2006, 20:00 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No sound.
Piper,

The live CD does not work with this sound card. Get the following message:

artsmessage
Error while initializing the sound driver: default can't be opened for playback (No Such Devices) The sound server will continue using the null output device.


(Same message as with hd installation)

running alsaconf gets the following:

running update modules
Fatal: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.16.16-kanotix-1/modules-dep-temp for writing.

and

Saving mixer setuuup used for this in /var/lib/aalsa/asound.state

and

save state 1163: No Soundcards found
JumpyLINUX - 30.08.2006, 19:18 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No sound.
wh7qq hat folgendes geschrieben::
Piper,

The live CD does not work with this sound card. Get the following message:

artsmessage
Error while initializing the sound driver: default can't be opened for playback (No Such Devices) The sound server will continue using the null output device.


(Same message as with hd installation)

running alsaconf gets the following:

running update modules
Fatal: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.16.16-kanotix-1/modules-dep-temp for writing.

and

Saving mixer setuuup used for this in /var/lib/aalsa/asound.state

and

save state 1163: No Soundcards found


Well my sound card is recognized. I also found this post on another forum that says it could be a bug in ALSA:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... p?t=468859

Also I checked "System->KInfoCenter->Sound" in Kanotix and Knoppix and I noticed that the version of ALSA in Knoppix is 1.0.11rc4 and in Kanotix 1.0.11rc2. So how can I update ALSA?
JumpyLINUX - 30.08.2006, 19:21 Uhr
Titel:
There is also another difference in "System->KInfoCenter->Sound" which is:

Knoppix (sound works)
Card config:
HDA Intel at 0xd000c000 irq 17


Kanotix (sound does not work)
Card config:
HDA Intel at 0xd000c000 irq 177



Is that meaningful?[/u][/i]
piper - 30.08.2006, 20:58 Uhr
Titel:
hmm, not sure if this will work, worth a try, I found this in the german forums

echo $(</proc/asound/modules )|awk '{print $2}' >> /etc/modules
update-rc.d -f alsa-utils defaults
ockham23 - 30.08.2006, 21:24 Uhr
Titel:
Zitat:
HDA Intel at 0xd000c000 irq 177
irq 177 is definitely wrong. Please post output of
Code:
cat /proc/interrupts
infobash -v2
Maybe it would help if you switched to an SMP kernel to have better irq handling.
schnorrer - 31.08.2006, 09:19 Uhr
Titel:
Not by default. sound with acpi and bios Auto the irq is routed to irq-177
with buggy apic the snd-irq is 17
I think a bios upgrade will fix the irq-problem for the sound.
piper - 31.08.2006, 10:40 Uhr
Titel:
schnorrer

If it works fine with live cd, how would a bio's upgrade fix this problem ?

A bio's upgrade does NOT fix everthing and is not a solution to fix everything, and can be dangerous even.
JumpyLINUX - 31.08.2006, 15:09 Uhr
Titel:
ockham23 hat folgendes geschrieben::
Zitat:
HDA Intel at 0xd000c000 irq 177
irq 177 is definitely wrong. Please post output of
Code:
cat /proc/interrupts
infobash -v2
Maybe it would help if you switched to an SMP kernel to have better irq handling.


Here is the output:

CPU0
0: 252404 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 199 IO-APIC-edge i8042
7: 2 IO-APIC-edge parport0
8: 4 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 34578 IO-APIC-level acpi
12: 1521 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 12172 IO-APIC-edge ide0
169: 1 IO-APIC-level ipw2200
177: 12786 IO-APIC-level uhci_hcd:usb4, HDA Intel, i915@pci:0000:00:02.0, eth0
185: 4 IO-APIC-level ohci1394, yenta, uhci_hcd:usb3
225: 46982 IO-APIC-level uhci_hcd:usb1, ehci_hcd:usb5
233: 0 IO-APIC-level uhci_hcd:usb2
NMI: 0
LOC: 252339
ERR: 0
MIS: 0
user@Acer:~$ infobash -v2
Host/Kernel/OS "Acer" running Linux 2.6.16.16-kanotix-1 i686 [ KANOTIX 2006 Easter ]
CPU Info Intel Pentium M clocked at [ 800.000 MHz ]
Videocard Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller X.Org 7.0.0 [ 1280x800 @60hz ]
Network cards Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet
Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
Processes 90 | Uptime 17min | Memory 309.449/1000.7MB | HDD ST9100822A Size 100GB (62%used) | Client Shell | Infobash v2.50rc14




How can I switch to an SMP Kernel?
JumpyLINUX - 31.08.2006, 15:28 Uhr
Titel:
piper hat folgendes geschrieben::
hmm, not sure if this will work, worth a try, I found this in the german forums

echo $(</proc/asound/modules )|awk '{print $2}' >> /etc/modules
update-rc.d -f alsa-utils defaults


This is what I got for the second command:
Code:
user@Acer:~$ update-rc.d -f alsa-utils defaults
 System startup links for /etc/init.d/alsa-utils already exist.


I have no idea if it did what it was supposed to. I also tried apt-get update and upgrade after a that but the ALSA version is still the old one.
Kano - 31.08.2006, 15:33 Uhr
Titel:
Just reboot and all is fine.
JumpyLINUX - 31.08.2006, 15:45 Uhr
Titel:
Kano hat folgendes geschrieben::
Just reboot and all is fine.

I did but can't still hear any sound.
piper - 31.08.2006, 15:52 Uhr
Titel:
Are you sure nothing is muted in kmix ?
JumpyLINUX - 31.08.2006, 15:56 Uhr
Titel:
piper hat folgendes geschrieben::
Are you sure nothing is muted in kmix ?

Yeas I'm sure.
JumpyLINUX - 31.08.2006, 16:02 Uhr
Titel:
I think the problem is in ALSA.

I checked the alsa homepage and I noticed that they have released version 1.0.12. I have 1.0.11rc2 on Kanotix and 1.0.11rc4 worked in Knoppix. How can I get the new 1.0.12 version?
ockham23 - 31.08.2006, 19:27 Uhr
Titel:
Zitat:
177: 12786 IO-APIC-level uhci_hcd:usb4, HDA Intel, i915@pci:0000:00:02.0, eth0
Maybe there's just to much bunched up at IRQ 177. This is brutal, but maybe things get better if you temporarily deactivate the network card (eth0) via BIOS settings.

Switching to an SMP kernel is not possible, however, because infobash tells me that you already have a "kanotix" kernel (=smp). Maybe updating to latest 2.6.17.11-kanotix-2 will help, but this is just a guess.
wh7qq - 01.09.2006, 07:35 Uhr
Titel:
Very Strange:

With all my efforts and the assistance of this forum, I had no luck getting the onboard audio on this Asus K8U-X mobo working but this morning, my wife booted the computer and the sound system worked! The KDE startup sounds came through the monitor speakers. I couldn't get to it at the time and when I booted later, no sound again. Wife says it happens sporadically.

This evening after much messing around, I had given up...couldn't even get an old Ensonique 1377 card to work. Put it all back together without the Ensonique and booted to check out my setup and sound was back! It lasted one boot. Gone now.

Originally, when I would do cat /proc/asound/cards, it would report "No Cards Found". When it was working it reported:

sh-3.1$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [M5455 ]: ICH - ALi M5455
ALi M5455 with AD1888 at 0x0, irq 3
1 [UART ]: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 5

but now it is reporting:

sh-3.1$ cat /proc/asound/cards

1 [UART ]: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 5


Why would this work intermittently?
Kano - 01.09.2006, 08:04 Uhr
Titel:
Did you update kernel to latest one on the tracker?
wh7qq - 01.09.2006, 19:05 Uhr
Titel:
Kano hat folgendes geschrieben::
Did you update kernel to latest one on the tracker?


I'm currently runing 2.6.17.8-slh-up-1...will upgrade to 2.6.17.11-kanotix-2. Thanks Kano.

After upgrade to 2.6.18-rc5-slh-up-1,

sh-3.1$ cat /proc/asound/cards
--- no soundcards ---

???

Paul

Ahhhh! Success. Went back and did

Code:
modprobe snd_intel8x0 buggy_semaphore=1


and edited /etc/modprobe.d/sound to read

Code:
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-intel8x0 index=0 buggy_semaphore=1
.

This was from a post on this forum...can't find it now...but it has this sound system working again!!! Didn't work before the kernel upgrade, so thanks again to Kano and to whoever posted that fix in the first place.

Paul
littlepeon - 05.09.2006, 10:21 Uhr
Titel:
hey there,

glad to hear you got it working....
had a similar problem w/gigabyte board....
sound, then no sound.....
seems that there was an option in the bios to enable/disable a plug and play operating system...whenever it was set to yes, kanotix would have problems w/cards and irqs..when set to no (common setting when not uning m$) kanotix would find multiple cards no problem....

just my .02 euros
-lilpeon
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