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dweebman - 06.09.2006, 00:18 Uhr
Titel: debian repositories

I am installing a server app that requires some packages from sarge. How do I support both kanotix and debian repositories at the same time?

thanks

Kano - 06.09.2006, 00:28 Uhr
Titel: RE: debian repositories

forget sarge and kanotix.

dweebman - 06.09.2006, 00:31 Uhr
Titel: RE: debian repositories

I don't understand.

ockham23 - 06.09.2006, 00:55 Uhr
Titel: RE: debian repositories

dweebman, you're not supposed to install Debian sarge packages on your Kanotix system. Kanotix is basically Debian sid, and installing packages from both versions of Debian is going to break apt. If you're looking for specific server packages, post a question in the forum. I'm sure the forum members will help you to find suitable packages from the sid/Kanotix software pool.

dweebman - 06.09.2006, 10:00 Uhr
Titel: debian repositories

thanks for the clarification.

mzilikazi - 06.09.2006, 13:37 Uhr
Titel: Re: debian repositories

dweebman hat folgendes geschrieben::

I am installing a server app that requires some packages from sarge.

thanks

What application?

Zitat:

How do I support both kanotix and debian repositories at the same time?

I'd like to clarify something here. Kanotix repositories are Debian repositories. That (IMHO) is why it beats out other Debian wannabe distros. Yes, there is a repo specific to Kanotix but that contains mostly custom built packages that could be:

A) Outdated/broken in Debian
B) Simply not available from a Debian repo
C) A package that only a Kanotix user would need

Look at /etc/apt/sources.list and you will see standard Debian repos.
All Kanotix specific packages are completely built to Debian standards. Kanotix is not a fork but rather a custom way to install Debian Sid.

pcalvert - 06.09.2006, 22:01 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: debian repositories

You could try installing Kanotix 2005-03 and editing sources.list so that apt-get pulls packages from the Debian repository for Sarge. I haven't tried it, but it might work. Some might consider this to be a "radical" idea, but many of the packages in Kanotix 2005-03 have version numbers that are identical to the ones in Sarge. It is analogous to installing Kanotix 2005-04 and then tracking Debian testing instead of Debian unstable.

Phil

ockham23 - 06.09.2006, 22:32 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: debian repositories

Zitat:

You could try installing Kanotix 2005-03 and editing sources.list so that apt-get pulls packages from the Debian repository for Sarge. I haven't tried it, but it might work.

Excuse me, but what kind of advice is that? If dweebman finds a replacement for the desired packages or an equivalent application, he is well advised to stick with his current install. If, however, these packages are essential and there's no workaround, he would still be better off installing sarge than following your suggestion of merging Debian stable and Kanotix-2005-03 into "Debian experimental".

jackiebrown - 07.09.2006, 01:27 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: debian repositories

I have installed some sarge packages in my debian sid. It depends on the package.

Worse case you can enable sarge as source than

apt-get build-dep packagename
apt-get --build source packagename

That should compile it with the sid compiliers and versions.

pcalvert - 07.09.2006, 01:53 Uhr
Titel: Re: debian repositories

ockham23 hat folgendes geschrieben::

Zitat:

You could try installing Kanotix 2005-03 and editing sources.list so that apt-get pulls packages from the Debian repository for Sarge. I haven't tried it, but it might work.

You are right, it is not good advice. But I didn't really intend for it to be advice. I should have clarified that it is just an idea that someone who is curious and adventuresome might want to try.

Here is some real advice:

dweebman,

If you decide to install Sarge then you might want to consider trying this "distro":
GenieOS

It is supposed to be an easier way to set up a Sarge system. Although I haven't tried it (yet), I have heard good reports about it.

Phil

dweebman - 07.09.2006, 13:41 Uhr
Titel: debian repositories

thanks to everyone for their input. I always value people taking the time to help (even if advice is questionable ;-0 ).

I am installing an educational app that installs with a script that looks for ntp to be installed. If it does not find ntp, then it apt-gets to debian sarge for the app.

ntp is installed but this script does not see it. I have determined that the script is looking for ntp-server but kanotix is ntp ( I belive). So, I am trying to modify the script to work. So far no success Smilie

...

again thanks to all

slam - 07.09.2006, 14:07 Uhr
Titel: RE: debian repositories

This problem is probably much easier to solve by linking from /usr/sbin/ntp-server to /usr/sbin/ntp.
If you tell us the name of this application we can probably really help and not just guess ...
Greetings,
Chris

dweebman - 07.09.2006, 14:38 Uhr
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thanks Chris. That makes sense. I don't want to take up any more of peoples' time. I should have thought about linking, its a good idea.

I will try to make progress today and if I don't succeed, then I will post the details and see if anyone has an interest in helping me.

I leave in the morning and will be gone for two weeks so if not today, then when I get back.

thanks again
Daniel

Gowator - 07.09.2006, 15:35 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: debian repositories

slam hat folgendes geschrieben::

OK ... I got one of my own ....

Joomla current with mysql (SID) and php (SID)

then I can unpin mysql and php....

wakarimasen - 08.09.2006, 09:13 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: debian repositories

oh dear - looks like a trip to the IRC