General Support - Should I switch to kanotix? hussam - 26.09.2006, 22:15 Uhr Titel: Should I switch to kanotix?
Throughout the last two months, I have been struggling with a choice of distribution.
Fedora - enough said.
SUSE 10.1 - Hibernate works but package manager is terribly broken
Ubuntu - Hibernate works but a bit slow and uses gnome
Ubuntu 6.06- Hibernate works but uses a buggy old KDE 3.5.1
Mandriva 2007 - Excellent distribution with excellent package management , almost 10 times faster than Ubuntu but hibernate doesn't work,
+ another 6 distributions.
Until I found Kanaotix. I'm pretty comfortable with Debian packaging. But I need to know if hibernate ( suspend to disk works ) before I switch from Mandriva.
I also need to be able to configure if power button makes it hibernate/shutdown.
hubi - 26.09.2006, 23:16 Uhr Titel: Should I switch to kanotix?
Use Kanotix, compare and choose.
Kanotix has
- best solution for daily upgrades (what a forum, what a devil! plus etorix - excellent)
- best solution for critical upgrades (best support, best fixes by kano - no need to reinstall)
- best solution for upgrades from release to release
I am just a user but Kanotix has convinced me over Fedora, Suse, **buntu, and Windows.
About hibernation: just try it. With nvidia it does not work here, although there is a solution I already had running (just forgot it, don't want hibernation anymore, rebooting and continueing a KDE-session is faster).
But, check it out. If Mandriva is the perfect solution at the moment, why changing it? If you are missing something, this might be the place you'll find it.
hubi
hubi
h2 - 26.09.2006, 23:23 Uhr Titel: RE: Should I switch to kanotix?
Are you talking about a laptop with functioning suspend to disk support? If so, yes, it works perfectly. That's assuming you have a reasonably modern laptop of course.
That's using powersave, not powernow. Powernow had issues, and is now a deprecated project.
However, some motherboards do not support suspend to disk, my desktop one doesn't even though it's fairly high end and not very old, I tested that. I'm not sure about hibernate, that's another package that I have as of yet not tested at all.
In windows, hibernate works by creating a single large file that contains everything that was in ram, with powersave this file is written to swap, so there is a requirement that your swap partition be significantly larger than your maximum expected ram useage on average. Please note that using htop is far more accurate to determine this than top, since htop reports actually used ram, and top reports all assigned, active and inactive ram [sorry if I am wrong on technical point here, but that's roughly how it appears to me].
So make swap big enough, 1 gig should be adequate for almost anything, 2 gig most certainly would be good enough. Personally I had no problems using much smaller swap, 512, but recently expanded it to be on the safe side.
For powersave to work with suspend to disk, the following argument must be added to your grub boot kernel parameters: resume=/dev/hda3
change hda3 to your actual swap partition of course.
Someone else will need to comment on hibernate, I haven't tested it, but assuming your hardware works with powersave etc, suspend to disk/ram should both work fine, especially with the latest kernels.
Nothing beats apt for package management in my opinion, it's the absolute top number one reason I will only use a true debian based system. Not ubuntu, that is, which cuts you off from the real sources.
rpm is what made me realize that I needed apt, so no further comment on any rpm based distro. Plus, count the number of changes mandrake etc have made in the past few years. Do you really think you can count on that company to be around in a useable form in 3 or 5 years time? A while ago they were almost bankrupt, but somehow got out of the situation.
slh - 26.09.2006, 23:30 Uhr Titel: RE: Should I switch to kanotix?
No one forces you to use Kanotix and no one can answer your hibernating question but you and your specific hardware in its current assembly.
turbowsr - 27.09.2006, 02:22 Uhr Titel: RE: Should I switch to kanotix?
That is what is great about the LiveCD. You can try it out before you "buy"
If I had this option when I received my Win95 CD, Bill would have seen its return.
I have been using Kanotix for about 2 weeks, I have tried out maybe every Live Distro with GUI, and installed a few others.
Kantonix stayed. Not to mention the support here, it's great.
BUT this is all up to the user, if there were one GREAT DISTRO, then there would be no need for the 1000 out there to satisfy someones need.
Do a search for "Best Distro Linux" you only get the ones that cost $$$ on their lists
I would rather use a software, then donate to the cause.
OR just spend the $100's for Windows, it works?.... DeepDayze - 27.09.2006, 04:49 Uhr Titel: RE: Should I switch to kanotix?
I'd rather not touch Vista