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fatbloke - 19.11.2006, 18:35 Uhr
Titel: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA!).
Just when you think things are going well!

Don't recall why, but last night I messed up (something to do with extensions or similar) and had to try to install firefox 2.

My efforts were pretty messy, but this morning I managed to sort that. Now none of my plugins seem to work. Realplayer, Flash, Java etc etc. Even though if I look at synaptic, they all seem to be installed.

If I then do about:plugins in FF2 it tells me that they're not. If I get the "missing plugins" window from FF2 (e.g. for java/jre) it has it "ticked" but isn't working.

Is this likely to be because of the FF2 not working with stuff downloaded via the kanotix/debian repo's and need to be installed by hand from tar.gz's and bin files or am I missing something?

Any guidance is much appreciated, because I can't find anything from a search that I understand.

regards

fatbloke.
craigevil - 19.11.2006, 18:49 Uhr
Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA
How did you install Firefox 2.0? Its not in any Debian repos, unless your using the version from experimental.

If your using the Mozilla version you need to copy the plugns from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
to the Firefox 2.0 plugins folder

My Firefox Information
http://www.geocities.com/reverendsky/infolister.html
fatbloke - 19.11.2006, 20:46 Uhr
Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA
OK, the firefox was installed from their site (tar.gz format I think?).

I've copied all the plugins files from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to the /usr/lib/firefox folder (presuming of course, that thats the "right" one, but have no way of acertaining whether it is or not).

Read through some of the items in your link re your firefox info - most of which, I don't really understand - hence, plugins (specifically the flashplayer) still not working and I'm still stumbling round the net to see if theres anything that sounds/looks familiar.

TVM though

FB!
piper - 19.11.2006, 23:00 Uhr
Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA
For flash remove the flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so from (with firefox closed)

/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (if it exists)
/usr/lib/firefox/plugins (if it exists)
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins (if it exists)
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree (if it exists)
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree-unpackdir (if it exists)

Use h2's script (cleanup stuff) or orphan to cleanup

then

Code:
apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree


Java

Code:
dpkg --purge sun-j2re1.4


which is located at

/usr/lib/jvm

then

Code:
apt-get install sun-java5-jre


Code:
apt-get install sun-java5-plugin


Not really needed but if you want

apt-get install sun-java5-fonts

apt-get install ttf-baekmuk ttf-sazanami-gothic ttf-sazanami-mincho ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp libmyodbc tfm-arphic-bsmi00lp
craigevil - 20.11.2006, 04:08 Uhr
Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA
Unless you place Firefox 2.0 in /usr/lib somewhere the /usr/lib/firefox that is there is for the existing Debian version.

Copy the plugins to the directory where you extracted 2.0, for me I just place it in my home folder.
fatbloke - 20.11.2006, 20:57 Uhr
Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA
Now I'm really confused!

The ones that piper suggested i.e. the ones that need removing, where done. Erm I couldn't find flashplayer.xpt anywhere???

I don't know how or what h2's cleanup script is, so I just did d-u with h2's du script and did the "orphan" thing that way - I presume that that would/should have done the trick.

All of the other suggested packages all came up as "already the most recent"

I think I understand what craigevil is suggesting. My problem is how to work out where the Firefox 2.0 mentioned actually is/was extracted to, so that I can place it where suggested (or can I just overwrite the version that may or may not be there already?

regards

FB
devil - 20.11.2006, 21:04 Uhr
Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA
fatbloke,
better get rid of that ff2, iceweasel will be in sid tonite.

greetz
devil
hubi - 20.11.2006, 21:36 Uhr
Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA
devil,

oooh! and I am longing for iceape, hope it's as good as the mozilla suite.

hubi
kstevek - 20.11.2006, 23:57 Uhr
Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA
apt-get update just showed iceweasel now but when I tried install its not really there yet...bah just uninstalled firefox too, ah well get it in the morning,

cheers kstevek
eco2geek - 21.11.2006, 03:39 Uhr
Titel:
And...there it is! Built-in spell check and all.

Still answers to the name "mozilla-firefox" --

andrew@ninnyhammer:/usr/bin$ ls -la mozilla-firefox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Nov 20 19:23 mozilla-firefox -> ../lib/iceweasel/iceweasel

<edit> Also:
andrew@ninnyhammer:/usr/bin$ ls -la firefox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Nov 20 19:23 firefox -> ../lib/iceweasel/iceweasel

andrew@ninnyhammer:/usr/bin$ ls -la iceweasel
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Nov 20 19:23 iceweasel -> ../lib/iceweasel/iceweasel

piper - 21.11.2006, 04:51 Uhr
Titel:
Weird

piper@KanotixBox:/usr/bin$ ls -la mozilla-firefox
bash: /usr/bin$: No such file or directory


piper@KanotixBox:/usr/bin$ ls -la iceweasel
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Nov 20 21:33 iceweasel -> ../lib/iceweasel/iceweasel
craigevil - 21.11.2006, 05:36 Uhr
Titel:
ls -la iceweasel
ls: iceweasel: No such file or directory
craig@KanotixBox:~$ ls -la mozilla-firefox
ls: mozilla-firefox: No such file or directory

and that is after installing iceweasel

craig@KanotixBox:~$ /usr/bin$ ls -la mozilla-firefox
bash: /usr/bin$: No such file or directory
craig@KanotixBox:~$ /usr/bin$ ls -la iceweasel
bash: /usr/bin$: No such file or directory

craig@KanotixBox:~$ whereis iceweasel
iceweasel: /usr/bin/iceweasel /etc/iceweasel /usr/lib/iceweasel /usr/X11R6/bin/iceweasel /usr/bin/X11/iceweasel /usr/share/iceweasel /usr/share/man/man1/iceweasel.1.gz

craig@KanotixBox:~$ whereis firefox
firefox: /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox /usr/bin/X11/firefox /usr/share/firefox /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz

craig@KanotixBox:~$ whereis mozilla-firefox
mozilla-firefox: /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla-firefox /usr/bin/X11/mozilla-firefox /usr/share/man/man1/mozilla-firefox.1.gz
piper - 21.11.2006, 05:52 Uhr
Titel:
/usr/bin$ Smilie
wegface - 21.11.2006, 15:36 Uhr
Titel:
Well ive been google searching like mad from the toolbar in effort to generate money for debian, not an exciting update for me tho- ive been using swiftfox 2.0 for some weeks....
mzilikazi - 22.11.2006, 00:59 Uhr
Titel:
wegface hat folgendes geschrieben::
Well ive been google searching like mad from the toolbar in effort to generate money for debian, not an exciting update for me tho- ive been using swiftfox 2.0 for some weeks....


Can't get enough of that Swiftfox. It simply kicks some booty.
Crest - 22.11.2006, 01:08 Uhr
Titel:
mzilikazi hat folgendes geschrieben::
Can't get enough of that Swiftfox. It simply kicks some booty.


Yeah, I'm also a happy Swiftfox user and the response is clearly better than with the standard Firefox. Maybe not so much of a difference on a fast machine but atleast on a slower one like my pIII-450 (P3 optimized build).
piper - 22.11.2006, 02:57 Uhr
Titel:
I agree on the slower Smilie
fatbloke - 23.11.2006, 19:16 Uhr
Titel:
Well I've just done as craigevil suggested and installed iceweasel.

Curious though, it installed straight over the firefox stuff in my system (as far as I can tell), even though the firefox was installed from either download i.e. from the mozilla site rather from the repository offerings.

It occured to me that I'll have to see if theres anything of the original files left to get rid of them, or will the iceweasel installation have overwritten all of them ??? i.e. the shortcut I made was also changed etc etc.

It's not that I'm moaning about it, far from it. It seems fine. It's just that not knowing much about how this all actually works, and what with (AFAIK) iceweasel being a rebadged/remaned firefox (2), does this mean that it's subject to any of the faults/upgrades/updates etc that firefox (given that someone has announced that they found a security issue with FF2 on digg and other locations today)???

regards

fatbloke
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