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					| Titel: Xgl and Kanotix?  Verfasst am: 23.04.2006, 22:23 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Anybody knows how to install xgl in kanotix? I think with xorg 7.0 it's possible, any idea? cheers
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					| Titel: Xgl and Kanotix?  Verfasst am: 23.04.2006, 22:52 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | best wait ´till it´ll appear in Sid. on a test install you could try these rpm´s:
 http://sonique54.free.fr/xgl/xgl.htm
 
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					| Titel: Xgl and Kanotix?  Verfasst am: 23.04.2006, 22:58 Uhr |  | 
  
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          |   | Titel:  Verfasst am: 23.04.2006, 23:01 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Yeah, better to wait to sid!!! I don't want to mess up  my kanotix box with files out of the repos.... but if anybody want to experiment....   thnx
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 24.04.2006, 06:29 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | I just tried it and ruined my whole xserver. Had to reinstall.  I think I will wait for it to hit the debian repos.
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 25.04.2006, 07:04 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Just installed Suse 10.1 RC2 on a scratch partition in order to play with Xgl. (It will come as no surprise to learn that this version of Suse is still buggy. Xgl seems to work fine.) 
 xserver-xgl and compiz are both in the "Packages being worked on" list, so hopefully it won't be too much longer until Kano can write a script to automagically configure it.
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 02.05.2006, 15:36 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | I used sonique instructions and I managed to work it. I had a problem with "could not open default font 'fixed'" error, but when I added parameter:
 
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-fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc
 
 to Xgl command, it just worked.
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 Videocard: nVidia NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x
 kanotix 2006-easter-rc2
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 02.05.2006, 16:35 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | maslota, have you tried it with kde? |  
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          | maslota, 
 That screenshot looks really nice.
 I want to use xgl and not necessarily Compiz to speed up window rendering.  I've played around with xgl on other Linux distros and noticed a significant gain in speed.
 
 If it isn't too much trouble to you, could you post:
 a) Any bugs or instability when using xgl with kde.  Is it stable enough with kde for everyday use?  Are the video playback bugs fixed?
 b) What you did (other than Sonique's instructions) to get it working with kde.
 c) Any anticipated problems with a Radeon 9700 card?
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 -Crust
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 02.05.2006, 22:23 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | a) None. I did it on my testing partition 2 days ago. I haven't played with it long enough to check it good. b) I added '-fp' parameter to Xgl command. I think installation of gnome is not necessarily, but I didn't want to take a risk
   c) I've read a lot about installation of xgl and I've noticed that many ATI users haven't been lucky
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 02.05.2006, 22:27 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Am I correct in thinking that you pretty much have to have either a Nvidia or Ati card? I have integrated graphics - I assume they won't work, as I still can't get OpenGL working! |  
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          | maslota hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
I used sonique instructions and I managed to work it.
 
I had a problem with "could not open default font 'fixed'" error, but when I added parameter:
 
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-fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc
 
 
to Xgl command, it just worked.
 
My system:
 
Videocard: nVidia NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x
 
kanotix 2006-easter-rc2
32-bit or 64-bit
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 03.05.2006, 09:05 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | jackiebrown hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
maslota hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
I used sonique instructions and I managed to work it.
 
I had a problem with "could not open default font 'fixed'" error, but when I added parameter:
 
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-fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc
 
 
to Xgl command, it just worked.
 
My system:
 
Videocard: nVidia NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x
 
kanotix 2006-easter-rc2
32-bit or 64-bit
 32-bit.
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					| Titel: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 07.05.2006, 00:46 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | I've followed sonique's instructions, and the hint to use Code: 
-fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc 
My fonts are in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ instead, so I used Code: 
-fp /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
 
 Gnome ( I prefer KDE or others, but whatever) seems to start OK, but soon does a sort of half-crash, where I can open folders, but right-clicking or anything like that doesn't work. Window borders disappear, as do the desktop menus. Obviously, that's unworkable. Killing the xserver at that point either gets me a kernel panic, or boots me back to the command line, with error messages to the effect of GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_add_group: assertion `g_key_file_lookup_group_node (key_file, group_name) == NULL' failed and fun things like that (all gtk errors).
 
 However, this is farther than I've gotten before. Thanks, guys!
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					| Titel: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 06.06.2006, 22:00 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | just saw this how-to for sid in amd64 debian list and i thought it might be interesting : 
 http://blue.dyn-o-saur.com/debianxgl/de ... howto.html
 
 haven't tried yet but probably will, anyday now..
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					| Titel: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 25.09.2006, 20:58 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | well the above link isn't working anymore and what's more, i wasn't able to make it happen, anyway. 
 so today, as i was looking for a script, i saw http://kanotix.com/files/install-compiz.sh ,
 but this notice "don't try with fglrx driver installed!" made me stop before testing anything.
 so has this been tested succesfully by anyone?
 and when can we expect for fglrx driver to also work with? (i guess, this depends on ati, most probably?)
 plus, first xgl repo, says all packages are alien-made.. is this really advisable?
 
 thanks,
 Dimitris.
 
 P.S i understand it's all still experimental software. just wondering.
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					| Titel: Re: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 26.09.2006, 00:33 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | dpdt1 hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
so has this been tested succesfully by anyone?
 
 
 I tried it on my GeForce FX 5600XT - it worked fine with KDE & Gnome.  Gnome will require you editing a GDM startup script.  There are a few ways you could do it.  No idea about ATI.  If you want to test it you should probably dedicate a spare partition to a fresh install of the latest RC and try it there.  There are some limitaions when using Xgl/compiz.
 
 If you use GDM & Gnome, after runnig the  install-compiz script you need to edit 1 file.
 
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gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
 Add the following [servers]section:
 
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[servers]
0=Xgl
 
 [server-Xgl]
 name=Xgl server
 command=/usr/bin/Xgl :0 -fp /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo
 flexible=true
 
 Then add startup-compiz.py to your ~/.gnome2/session-manual
 
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echo startup-compiz.py >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual
 
 CTRL+ALT+F1
 
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#/etc/init.d/gdm restart
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					| Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 26.09.2006, 03:42 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Now the install-compiz.sh script works in live mode too, as well as install-nvidia-debian.sh does or the fixed install-fglrx-debian.sh one. fglrx was very tricky to support, but now it works. |  
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					| Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 26.09.2006, 03:50 Uhr |  | 
  
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					| Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 26.09.2006, 04:45 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Interesting to see how this turns out.  I have been wanting to try it but couldn't get it to work.  SUSE was able to recognize half my hardware so I dumped.  Didn't work right anyway.  I have an ATI x1600 Pro with 512megs ram on board which should handle it but everywhere I look I see it is only for nVidia. 
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					| Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 26.09.2006, 16:39 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | great work kano, I want to test your script with my ATI 9800 Pro and I hope not to ruin my nice system, however, I am not sure, if it works with the Easter Edition too. I do not want to provoke a crash... 
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					| Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 26.09.2006, 17:12 Uhr |  | 
  
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					| Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 26.09.2006, 17:39 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | bushit hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
great work kano, I want to test your script with my ATI 9800 Pro and I hope not to ruin my nice system, however, I am not sure, if it works with the Easter Edition too. I do not want to provoke a crash...
 bushit
 
 Just make a backup before you install xgl/compiz
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					| Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there  Verfasst am: 26.09.2006, 18:09 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | @jbs1136 
 it definitely WORKS with fglrx and 2006-01 RC3.
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