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Titel: debian repositories
 Verfasst am: 06.09.2006, 00:18 Uhr
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I am installing a server app that requires some packages from sarge. How do I support both kanotix and debian repositories at the same time?
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Titel: RE: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 06.09.2006, 00:28 Uhr
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| forget sarge and kanotix. |
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Titel: RE: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 06.09.2006, 00:31 Uhr
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Titel: RE: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 06.09.2006, 00:55 Uhr
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| dweebman, you're not supposed to install Debian sarge packages on your Kanotix system. Kanotix is basically Debian sid, and installing packages from both versions of Debian is going to break apt. If you're looking for specific server packages, post a question in the forum. I'm sure the forum members will help you to find suitable packages from the sid/Kanotix software pool. |
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Titel: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 06.09.2006, 10:00 Uhr
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| thanks for the clarification. |
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Titel: Re: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 06.09.2006, 13:37 Uhr
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dweebman hat folgendes geschrieben::
I am installing a server app that requires some packages from sarge.
thanks
What application?
Zitat:
How do I support both kanotix and debian repositories at the same time?
I'd like to clarify something here. Kanotix repositories are Debian repositories. That (IMHO) is why it beats out other Debian wannabe distros. Yes, there is a repo specific to Kanotix but that contains mostly custom built packages that could be:
A) Outdated/broken in Debian
B) Simply not available from a Debian repo
C) A package that only a Kanotix user would need
Look at /etc/apt/sources.list and you will see standard Debian repos.
All Kanotix specific packages are completely built to Debian standards. Kanotix is not a fork but rather a custom way to install Debian Sid. |
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Titel: RE: Re: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 06.09.2006, 22:01 Uhr
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You could try installing Kanotix 2005-03 and editing sources.list so that apt-get pulls packages from the Debian repository for Sarge. I haven't tried it, but it might work. Some might consider this to be a "radical" idea, but many of the packages in Kanotix 2005-03 have version numbers that are identical to the ones in Sarge. It is analogous to installing Kanotix 2005-04 and then tracking Debian testing instead of Debian unstable.
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Titel: RE: Re: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 06.09.2006, 22:32 Uhr
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Zitat:
You could try installing Kanotix 2005-03 and editing sources.list so that apt-get pulls packages from the Debian repository for Sarge. I haven't tried it, but it might work.
Excuse me, but what kind of advice is that? If dweebman finds a replacement for the desired packages or an equivalent application, he is well advised to stick with his current install. If, however, these packages are essential and there's no workaround, he would still be better off installing sarge than following your suggestion of merging Debian stable and Kanotix-2005-03 into "Debian experimental". |
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Titel: RE: Re: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 07.09.2006, 01:27 Uhr
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I have installed some sarge packages in my debian sid. It depends on the package.
Worse case you can enable sarge as source than
apt-get build-dep packagename
apt-get --build source packagename
That should compile it with the sid compiliers and versions. |
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Titel: Re: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 07.09.2006, 01:53 Uhr
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ockham23 hat folgendes geschrieben::
Zitat:
You could try installing Kanotix 2005-03 and editing sources.list so that apt-get pulls packages from the Debian repository for Sarge. I haven't tried it, but it might work.
Excuse me, but what kind of advice is that? If dweebman finds a replacement for the desired packages or an equivalent application, he is well advised to stick with his current install. If, however, these packages are essential and there's no workaround, he would still be better off installing sarge than following your suggestion of merging Debian stable and Kanotix-2005-03 into "Debian experimental".
You are right, it is not good advice. But I didn't really intend for it to be advice. I should have clarified that it is just an idea that someone who is curious and adventuresome might want to try.
Here is some real advice:
dweebman,
If you decide to install Sarge then you might want to consider trying this "distro":
GenieOS
It is supposed to be an easier way to set up a Sarge system. Although I haven't tried it (yet), I have heard good reports about it.
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Titel: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 07.09.2006, 13:41 Uhr
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thanks to everyone for their input. I always value people taking the time to help (even if advice is questionable ;-0 ).
I am installing an educational app that installs with a script that looks for ntp to be installed. If it does not find ntp, then it apt-gets to debian sarge for the app.
ntp is installed but this script does not see it. I have determined that the script is looking for ntp-server but kanotix is ntp ( I belive). So, I am trying to modify the script to work. So far no success  ...
again thanks to all |
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Titel: RE: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 07.09.2006, 14:07 Uhr
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This problem is probably much easier to solve by linking from /usr/sbin/ntp-server to /usr/sbin/ntp.
If you tell us the name of this application we can probably really help and not just guess ...
Greetings,
Chris |
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Verfasst am: 07.09.2006, 14:38 Uhr
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thanks Chris. That makes sense. I don't want to take up any more of peoples' time. I should have thought about linking, its a good idea.
I will try to make progress today and if I don't succeed, then I will post the details and see if anyone has an interest in helping me.
I leave in the morning and will be gone for two weeks so if not today, then when I get back.
thanks again
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Titel: Re: RE: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 07.09.2006, 15:35 Uhr
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slam hat folgendes geschrieben::
This problem is probably much easier to solve by linking from /usr/sbin/ntp-server to /usr/sbin/ntp.
If you tell us the name of this application we can probably really help and not just guess ...
Greetings,
Chris
OK ... I got one of my own ....
Joomla current with mysql (SID) and php (SID)
then I can unpin mysql and php.... |
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: debian repositories
Verfasst am: 08.09.2006, 09:13 Uhr
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| oh dear - looks like a trip to the IRC |
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