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Titel: Can't get printing working in 2006-01-RC3 (Solved)  BeitragVerfasst am: 25.09.2006, 17:14 Uhr



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I can't get Kanotix 2006-01-RC3, installed to hard drive, to print to an old HP 500C parallel port printer via CUPS. I have tried setting this printer up with different drivers with cupsconfig. The jobs just sit in queue and the printer gives no indication of receiving anything. The only way I can get the printer to print anything is to send raw data over the parallel port with doing a "cat test >/dev/lp0" on the command line. This printer works currently with a Puppy Linux liveCD and with Win2K on the same laptop. The strange thing is that I haven't been able to get this printer to work with Knoppix 5.01 or Mepis 6.0, either, both using CUPS, though tried many things. Knoppix 5.01 has a know printing bug but I found a solution to it and printing worked fine to a newer HP Photosmart 8150 from two Knoppix 5.01 HD installs. So is this some kind of issue with Debian packages of CUPS, only affecting certain printer setups? 3 Debian-based distros and no printing yet to this printer. Any help/workarounds appreciated. Thanks.


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UncleDeadley
Titel: RE: Can  BeitragVerfasst am: 25.09.2006, 17:17 Uhr



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Oh, I think you might need to try the 'cupsys shuffle'. See here: http://kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... 409#134409
I had to do this just last night. Post back, of course, if it doesn't fix things for you.
 
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linookser
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 26.09.2006, 14:16 Uhr



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I followed Piper's procedure but still no printing (!%@#^& printer!). I added the printer with the web interface, then used the web interface to test it. It was first reporting that it couldn't access the port, then I added the user to the "lp" group, then CUPS reported that the parallel port was busy and it could never print. I finally just got a few lines of garbage out of the printer, about 1 line per page, which I've had before in other distros. Yet, this HP Deskjet 500C printer works with Puppy (probably not using CUPS) and Win2K, at least. Any further help appreciated, though I'm about ready to throw this &^%$@! printer into the garbage (automatic paper feeding doesn't work with it, have to feed pages in manually one by one)! Verrückt
 
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UncleDeadley
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 27.09.2006, 19:23 Uhr



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Gee, I don't know what else to tell you... anyone else can help? You might search the forums for other printing helps, but I think most of them consist of the 'cupsys shuffle'

Edit: see this thread http://kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... nting+help
At the bottom Slam suggests modifying rcconf and gives instructions how. This solved fatblokes particularly persistent printing problem. Maybe it will help you, too?

Maybe this one, too http://kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... p;start=45
if the other doesn't work. This one is kind of dated, though. Good luck
 
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linookser
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 28.09.2006, 20:24 Uhr



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Thanks. I'm still trying to get this to work. My HP8150 USB printer configures very smoothly with 2006-01-RC3, without any modifications at all, as with any other distro I've tried. I used to have the HP500C working with CUPS, it's certainly a common, if old, printer. I've posted about this in the French Knoppix forum as well, since I first noticed the problem in Knoppix. Kryss_38 in that thread actually had the same printer working. It's seems to be a niggly problem. I'll check out the posts you mention and investigate some more if no luck and post back if I get things working. Any other advice welcome, of course.
 
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hubi
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 28.09.2006, 21:52 Uhr



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linookser,

just today I had a similar problem with a printer on USB. I installed it through the Kanotix/KDE printer installation routine: nothing, nada, printer there, no printing.

Then I used http://localhost:631 in a browser, deleted the installation, reinstalled the printer, and alas! It prints like a charm.

Hope this helps for a parallel port as well,
hubi

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linookser
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 29.09.2006, 13:42 Uhr



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OK, I found out that this old HP500C is printing, just only 1 line every 3 minutes ... I printed a 10 line test page and it took 30 minutes to print. Does anyone have any idea what might be slowing down printing to something probably slower than 9th century monk calligraphy? It prints a line, then waits 3 minutes, then prints another. Processes/cpu activity in 'top' look normal.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 29.09.2006, 14:58 Uhr
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Well, IMHO parallel port is slow as hell to begin with, I am out of idea's, sorry, it could be time for a new USB printer Winken or wait and see if someone else as any more ideas

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 29.09.2006, 19:36 Uhr



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No ideas here, either. I have an epson 880 hooked up by parallel port to my wifes kanotix box- updated last on sunday- and it works just fine. Motherboard is a asus p4p-800, I think.
 
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Titel: Fixed  BeitragVerfasst am: 03.10.2006, 03:16 Uhr



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I finally fixed this problem, which I've had for about 2 weeks across 3 distros. I can now print very well to this old HP 500C, in dist-upgraded 2006-01-RC3 (I haven't applied the RC4 patch). I'm not too sure why it's now working, but what I finally did was:

rm -rf /etc/cups
dpkg --purge --force-all cupsys
apt-get install cupsys=1.2.3-1

I installed cupsys version 1.2.3-1 from my archives, it's no longer in the standard repos (but available in Debian snapshot of 2006/09/20 at least).

Then I set up the printer as usual in the web interface (http://localhost:631).

Before this I had a problem where all of a sudden I couldn't access the CUPS web interface anymore and that took quite some time to get back again. However, I have a clean install of CUPS without any modifications at the moment. My other current package versions are:

cupsys-client 1.2.4-1
cupsys-common 1.2.4-1
hplip 1.6.7-2

I also installed hpijs version 2.6.7+1.6.7-2.

Sehr glücklich

P.S. Don't know if cupsys version 1.2.3-1 had anything to do with the fix, but I installed it because I had no luck getting printing to work with version 1.2.4-1 and I was using version 1.2.3-1 successfully on another machine.
 
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