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Titel: Can't use cd rom  BeitragVerfasst am: 02.10.2006, 03:38 Uhr



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Hello All,

It took me ages to find that my CD rom command was hiding in NEW in the top panel. I've now opened it and clicked on 'cd-writer' which installed an icon on the desktop. But when I click on that I get:
'The desktop entry file ......... is of type FSDevice but has no Dev=... entry'.

Anyone like to tell me what I do now to bring this facility into play?

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Titel: RE: Can't use cd rom  BeitragVerfasst am: 02.10.2006, 13:22 Uhr
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I have no idea what cdrom command or panel you're referring to (not a KDE user myself) but I can perhaps help with basic Linux commands. Usually a symlink is made from /dev/cdrom to your actual cd device. See if it's there:
Code:
ls -al /dev/cdrom

It may also be called /dev/cdrom0 or even /dev/dvd. In any application you wish to use for either playing cd's or burning cd's you will need to point the application to your cdrom drive. In XMMS for example you simply do this:

Right click XMMS>Play File>/dev/cdrom and it will load the contents of the cd into XMMS.

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puzzled
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 03.10.2006, 01:08 Uhr



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Hello Mzilikazi,

Thanks for replying.

Right, I typed in the ls - command and got: '/dev/cdrom -> hdc'. So it's there okay.

I then found XMMS under Multimedia in the main program menu but can't work out how to enter the Play ... command that you gave me. I entered the whole thing into a console screen but right clicking does nothing there.

What am I doing wrong, please?
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 03.10.2006, 02:28 Uhr
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Oh sorry - maybe I should be more clear. Simply right click on XMMS anywhere on the main window and it should bring up a menu. Play File> In the Selection window that opens type in /dev/cdrom and hit Play

OR

In the playlist editor right click> Add>File>/dev/cdrom

OR

Simply hit the L key and the Play Files dialog window will open that way too.

There are many applications for playing cd's. Amarok is very popular with KDE users.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 03.10.2006, 13:20 Uhr



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Hi again,

Nope, can't get it. I now have an XMMS icon on my desktop: right clicking it gives me an option to 'open'. Doing that brings up a little blue panel which seems to be about playing an audio cd. Whatever I click on in that panel doesn't do a thing with the disc I've placed in the cdrom player.

The disc is the user instructions for my printer, nothing to do with music. Perhaps we are at cross purposes here.

I've mounted the cdrom okay, by the way, but just can't work out how to use it.

Hope you can help.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 03.10.2006, 13:32 Uhr
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puzzled hat folgendes geschrieben::
Hi again,

Nope, can't get it. I now have an XMMS icon on my desktop: right clicking it gives me an option to 'open'. Doing that brings up a little blue panel which seems to be about playing an audio cd. Whatever I click on in that panel doesn't do a thing with the disc I've placed in the cdrom player.

The disc is the user instructions for my printer, nothing to do with music. Perhaps we are at cross purposes here.

I've mounted the cdrom okay, by the way, but just can't work out how to use it.

Hope you can help.


Oh hahaha. You surely don't need XMMS to read some documents on a cd now do you! Smilie

The cd should automount and you can browse it with the file manager Konqueror. In Konqueror try typing in the address bar (is that the right name??) media:// and you should see your cdrom drive there.

BTW if you wish to configure a printer you don't need the documentation for your printer really. SImply start CUPS running and use your browser to configure the printer:
Code:
unfreeze-rc.d
/etc/init.d/cupsys start

Now point your browser to:
http://localhost:631

If you have problems please post back.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 03.10.2006, 21:46 Uhr



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Hello,

By now you will have realised that though I'm using Kanotix quite happily to write letters and surf the web, I know nothing about Linux. Or KDE. So, before I return to my problem of using the cd-rom, can I ask if you can recommend how I go about starting to learn what an absolute beginner needs to know?

Anyway, 'media://' in the Konqueror task bar gives 'malformed URl media://'. When I click on 'storage media', in the panel below the task bar, I get details of my hard drive partitions and my floppy - but nothing about the cdrom.

You're being very patient and I admire your willingness to help. Hope we can get this sorted quickly for your sake.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 03.10.2006, 21:58 Uhr



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The reason that the cdrom was under 'New' is that is what the default label for a cdrom is when you burn it.

All it is showing you is that label. If you had give the cdrom the label: Metallica's Greatest hit when you burned it, you would see that instead of 'New'. You can't change the label of a cdrom without reburning it, since it's not a writeable media.

You also need to put which kanotix version you are using, and if it's been upgraded. The way cdroms are mounted has changed over the last few months, and if you have an old version the answer would not be the same as if you have a new or recently upgraded version.

Also, if you upgraded without applying the cdrom fixes, you'll need to apply those manually, or by running kano's cdrom fix.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 04.10.2006, 04:37 Uhr
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puzzled hat folgendes geschrieben::
Hello,

By now you will have realised that though I'm using Kanotix quite happily to write letters and surf the web, I know nothing about Linux. Or KDE. So, before I return to my problem of using the cd-rom, can I ask if you can recommend how I go about starting to learn what an absolute beginner needs to know?


There are alot of places to find documentation for Linux. Alot of it is outdated. For Kanotix the Wiki, Forum & Manual contian the most up to date and specific information for Kanotix. Other sources would include anything Debian like debian-admistration.org or http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ or many many other places. For quick help you should use the forum or better yet join us in IRC. It's like a chat room without the childish antics. Almost any time of day you can get help with most problems. Quite frequently several of the forum mods, developers and even Kano himself are in IRC. Just keep using LInux and it'll come. Smilie

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Anyway, 'media://' in the Konqueror task bar gives 'malformed URl media://'. When I click on 'storage media', in the panel below the task bar, I get details of my hard drive partitions and my floppy - but nothing about the cdrom.


Hmm ok I guess you can't just type media:// in Konqueror. Sorry Mit den Augen rollen I'm not a KDE user. Try /media since that's where the drive will actually get mounted. Also in a shell simply type:
Code:
mount
and paste the output here.
That command tells you which drives are mounted and where.

Zitat:
You're being very patient and I admire your willingness to help. Hope we can get this sorted quickly for your sake.


Well it's the norm around here. It's just part of the community. We like to see new users so ask any questions you have - there are no wrong questions only wrong answers (umm not that I would know anything about that mind you Winken ). Usually someone will point you to the documentation or provide the answer.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 04.10.2006, 07:47 Uhr



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The correct URI to put into Konqueror's location bar is media:/ (only one slash at the end). You can also do what you've already done: go to the tabs at the very left of the Konqueror window, click on the "Services" tab (second one from the bottom), and then click on "Storage Media" in the left-hand pane.

If a CD-ROM's been auto-mounted, it should show up there (and on the desktop). Very clever of h2 to realize that "New" is probably the default label of the CD.

Thus far, I've never had a problem setting up a printer using KDE's "wizard" (Control Center > Peripherals > Printers). But it does assume you a) already have the CUPS daemon running, and b) you log in as root (aka "Administrator Mode").

Most people here, however, swear by (and sometimes at) the CUPS web interface at http://localhost:631.

Oh, and, here's some non-technical advice on how to become a successful Linux user.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 04.10.2006, 23:58 Uhr



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Hello All,

You are all very encouraging. I'm using Kanotix version 2005.04 which I now realise is out of date. I won't even try to download the updates, as I'm on dial-up with a connection that automatically cuts off at two hour intervals, and will send off for a ready-pressed CD.

What suggest is that I leave this subject in abeyance until I have the new OS installed. Then I will come back to this forum with what will undoubedly be a load of questions, but at least we'll be on a level playing field.

In the meantime I'll have a look at the beginners site that Eco2geek mentioned. Sounds just what I need.

I'm impressed with you all and offer my thanks.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 05.10.2006, 23:01 Uhr
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I won't even try to download the updates, as I'm on dial-up with a connection that automatically cuts off at two hour intervals, and will send off for a ready-pressed CD.


FYI there are downloaders for Linux (and probably windows?) that allow you to stop and resume a download. You do need to get the latest tho. Smilie

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