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Titel: Grub seems to have problem while installing Kanotix2013
 Verfasst am: 23.11.2013, 22:24 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 23. Nov 2013
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Hello, I installed Kanotix2013 from CD onto a computer which has dual WindowsXP/Fedora OS.
The installer started nicely asking for root password, username, ...., and recognizing the Linux partition, installed Kanotix in that partition.
Then grub took over to create the boot and went into long pause. Next morning a message was saying that Grub wrote the boot onto /dev/sda and it took 689 minutes and 26 seconds to install !
Now, when I switch on the PC, the grub menu shows no Kanotix, but shows Fedora 2.6.31.6.166.fc12.i686 or other.
The "other" is Windows xp which starts normally. Fedora on the other hand, never starts. One reason for choosing Kanotix, apart from Kanotix being a magnificent OS [i'm working with its persistent stick memory], was the long pause of Fedora. I'd appreciate your solution to this issue.
I should say that I'm not familiar with sophisticated Linux commands.
thanks, bob |
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Titel: Grub seems to have problem while installing Kanotix2013
Verfasst am: 25.11.2013, 11:42 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 17. Dez 2003
Beiträge: 16790
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I need to know more of this system, show me output of
Code:
sudo efibootmgr
sudo fdisk -l
while booted live and come to irc when i am there. |
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Verfasst am: 27.11.2013, 04:56 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 23. Nov 2013
Beiträge: 14
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Hello Kano,
I typed the recommended commands on a terminal in the CD-live session:
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ whoami
kanotix
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ pwd
/home/kanotix
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ sudo efibootmgr
Fatal: Couldn't open either sysfs or procfs directories for accessing EFI variables.
Try 'modprobe efivars' as root.
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x5458c34c
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 63 20466809 10233373+ 12 Compaq diagnostics
/dev/sda2 20466810 162625994 71079592+ 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3 162625995 174913994 6144000 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda4 174915720 312576704 68830492+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 * 174915783 175325382 204800 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 175325384 312576198 68625407+ 8e Linux LVM
Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root: 68.4 GB, 68425875456 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 8318 cylinders, total 133644288 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root doesn't contain a valid partition
table
Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_swap: 1845 MB, 1845493760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 224 cylinders, total 3604480 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_swap doesn't contain a valid partition
table
kanotix@Kanotix:~$
kanotix@Kanotix:~$
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ su - root
root@Kanotix:~# whoami
root
root@Kanotix:~# pwd
/root
root@Kanotix:~# modprobe efivars
root@Kanotix:~#
root@Kanotix:~# modprobe efibootmgr
FATAL: Module efibootmgr not found.
root@Kanotix:~# sudo efibootmgr
Fatal: Couldn't open either sysfs or procfs directories for accessing
EFI variables.
Try 'modprobe efivars' as root.
root@Kanotix:~#
root@Kanotix:~# modprobe efivars
root@Kanotix:~#
================== end of terminal print ==============
Will try a live session in a time of day that is suitable for Germany and Canada in near future.
thanks, bob |
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Verfasst am: 28.11.2013, 17:12 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 17. Dez 2003
Beiträge: 16790
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| Well i dont see a problem for grub on your box, should be possible to install to /dev/sda but NOT to root partition. Maybe get a new iso from !nightly (with all updates) put it on a stick and try again. |
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Verfasst am: 29.11.2013, 20:15 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 23. Nov 2013
Beiträge: 14
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Verfasst am: 29.11.2013, 21:21 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 10. Jul 2004
Beiträge: 290
Wohnort: Bayern (München & Rottenburg)
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Verfasst am: 05.12.2013, 19:09 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 23. Nov 2013
Beiträge: 14
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Hello, the nightly version 29-11-2013 was burned on DVD and started a live session. Then activated kanotix-install. Acritox installer 0.2.33 started smoothly. Again at 91% point, Grub "installing boot manager to the selected target [/dev/sda]" took very long time. A message at the end said installation completed and took 711minutes, 23sec. While Grub was working, the others including iceweasel were super slow.
After the install, the live session does not shut down. Have to power off the box. Once the DVD is out and the box is switched on again, the Grub shows Fedora and others, but not Kanotix.
It appears that while installing, Grub is searching for an item that is not there. I'd appreciate your guides. Thanks. |
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Verfasst am: 06.12.2013, 00:18 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 17. Dez 2003
Beiträge: 16790
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Verfasst am: 06.12.2013, 00:55 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 23. Nov 2013
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Here it is:
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ whoami
kanotix
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ pwd
/home/kanotix
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ sudo dmraid -r
no raid disks
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ |
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Verfasst am: 06.12.2013, 03:11 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 23. Nov 2013
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| Is there a key that user can press to trigger diagnostic messages to be output during the Grub stage? |
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Verfasst am: 06.12.2013, 12:17 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 17. Dez 2003
Beiträge: 16790
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| No, but i could try to install grub manually on your box when you come to IRC. Then i can maybe see more. |
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Verfasst am: 11.12.2013, 05:51 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 23. Nov 2013
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hi, while Kanotix installation is in progress, IRC does not start. I guess the current memory of 1GB in my box is insufficient and has to be increased in near future for both Installer and IRC work concurrently.
Acritox, does version "kanotix32-acritox-nightly-KDE-special.iso" print more diagnostic while installing, than the normal version. I'm looking for a version that print more info in order to see what Grub is waiting for so many hours? |
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Verfasst am: 11.12.2013, 17:43 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 17. Dez 2003
Beiträge: 16790
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Impossible that you have got 1 gb ram, check
Code:
infobash -v3
as user (not root). |
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Verfasst am: 11.12.2013, 20:18 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 23. Nov 2013
Beiträge: 14
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here it is:
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ infobash -v3
Host/Kernel/OS "Kanotix" running Linux 3.12.0-4-generic i686 [ Kanotix acritox-nightly Dragonfire32 131202a KDE ]
CPU Info AMD Athlon 2650e 512 KB cache flags ( sse sse2 nx lm pni svm ) clocked at [ 800.000 MHz ]
Videocard NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] X.Org 1.12.4 [ 1680x1050 ]
Network cards NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet, at port: ec00
Processes 133 | Uptime 7min | Memory 269.3/873.8MB | HDD ATA WDC WD1600AAJS-2,Generic- SM/xD/SD/MMC/MS Size 160GB (0%used) | GLX Renderer Gallium 0.4 on NV4C | GLX Version Yes | Client Shell | Infobash v2.67.2
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ whoami
kanotix
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ pwd
/home/kanotix
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ date
Wed Dec 11 20:06:29 UTC 2013
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ |
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Verfasst am: 11.12.2013, 21:35 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 17. Dez 2003
Beiträge: 16790
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| Ok, you could set your onboard vga to 64 mb then you have got more free ram. You wont loose vga speed as it is slow as hell anyway. Your cpu would be 64 bit btw. so you could use kanotix64 (but get a bit more ram) and preferred a pci-e gfx card (like a passive nv 610 or so). |
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Verfasst am: 28.12.2014, 22:27 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 23. Nov 2013
Beiträge: 14
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An update:
i installed KANOTIX on a newer box, easily. I think Kanotix is the best Linux as far as installation, component detection, and bug freeness are concerned. My old box has a bogus Grub 1 from an ancient install, so only the original os on it is used now. |
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