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Titel: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 08:07 Uhr
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I upgraded to the newest kernel (2.17.11 up version). Everything was going along fine until I asked for ati (my video card) driver. It downloaded the stuff needed and then came up some dpkg errors (I believe it was something about package fglrx-(kernel2.17.11???)). I cannot remember what they are because a) it went by quite fast and b) they were off the screen before I could fully see them. Needless to say kdm cannot work. I do have full text capability, so if there is anyone out there who can get my video working again. I would be very thankful. Warning: I am a noobie who is just getting confortable with linux, GUI based. I am a very mediocre text based operator. |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 08:52 Uhr
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If you didn't do it already, you need to run this:
update-scripts-kanotix.sh
then run this again"
install-fglrx-debian.sh
See if that helps, if not, I'm not sure what the next step is. Please post what kanotix version you are using, what kernel, if you have upgraded the system with dist-upgrade, and if so, when you last did it. |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 09:28 Uhr
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Type in konsole
cat /etc/kanotix-version - kanotix version
uname -a - show Kernel and OS
and post that info here, along with the anwers to the other questions h2 asked
Remember, after each kernel upgrade you have to reinstall video drivers. |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 14:04 Uhr
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I had run a full dist-upgrade with no probs with kernel 2.6.17.8-shl-up-1 I then ran kanotix-update-gui I upgraded to kernel 2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 (uname info is kernel 2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 #1 PREEMT Thur Aug 24 02:00:01 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linhux, . I was inform is was installed properly, the gui then asked me if I wanted it to do its magic, which I said yes to. On the reboot, it did its magic, through the configuring of the sound card, but when it hit the videocard selection feature, at which point I selected ati (my videocard) it continued downloaded the apts it wanted, and then installed them, or rather tried to install them. There was a failure with with installing at that point, which ment of course, no videocard, and no gui, running scripts now to see what happens. |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 15:05 Uhr
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Forgot to specify time. About Aug 26, 2006 - 12 AM EDT. Am in now in ATI installer/packager, removing purging files, got it this time. Installing flgrx-control fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 xorg-driver-flgrx. Dependency probs prevent configuration of , depends on and therefore removing flgrx-control fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 xorg-driver-flgrx. Ran the same scripts with kernel 2.6.17.8-shl-up-1 running and found the same prob, but then I decided to say no instead of yeas to to removal and it loaded fine, as far as loading kdm was concerned, didn't try anything else. So I rebooted back to the kernel 2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 and retried install-fglrx-debian.sh and gave me the same dependency errors, said no this time to removal and kdm proceed to load. All I can say is that something is strange going on and does this mean fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 acually got configured correctly, or that something is going to bite me later on, and is the a conflict or an apt dependency prob I could have with one of flgrx-control fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-shl-up-1 xorg-driver-flgrx that is not showing up that could be causing a prob? Looked at Kpackage shows all three with a question mark, also each one says under status installed ok unpacked. Ran fixup and all it wanted to do is remove them. I can live with it at the moment if that is all its gouing to happen, but I don't like it when things are left hanging like that, because I know one of these days something will happen to another apt that I want to remove and apt-get will take advantage of the situation and remove thiose three also. I have no clue as to whether it is a bug or not, but I would like to find out. |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 15:11 Uhr
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 15:24 Uhr
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The version of xorg I have is 1:7.0.23 and xserver-xorg-core is version 2:1.0.2-10 which was also in the news, I didn't do any upgrades until the all clear was given. |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 16:35 Uhr
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You have to rerun the fglrx script after every kernel change. |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 17:02 Uhr
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Found out what the prob is. fglrx has crashed my kcontrol and on tring to do a reinstall with aptitude I got this:
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 2958kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
fglrx-control: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.999.2-11 is installed.
xorg-driver-fglrx: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.999.2-11 is installed.
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-slh-up-1
xorg-driver-fglrx
Downgrade the following packages:
fglrx-control [8.28.8-1 (now) -> 8.24.8-1 (unstable, unstable,
unstable, unstable, unstable, unstable)]
Found this on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/ind ... 04245.html talking about libc6 (>= 2.4-1) problems. Is there another ATI driver I could use in the mean time, or is there some work around I could use? |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 26.08.2006, 20:42 Uhr
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Update. Finding that almost all GUI apts are toast. Browsers do work though which is nice to know. |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 27.08.2006, 04:26 Uhr
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Out of desperation, I came across dpkg-reconfigure --all and took a chance. It has cleared up the prob I was having with all my GUI apts. Acually I stopped part way through because things were getting really bad. Rebooting and right now things aren't too bad. BIG prob now is that until the dependancy thing is staightened up or there is a way of getting a different working driver I can use, I am toast as far as removing, installing or upgrading is concerned. Would you have an idea as to when a fix could be had? |
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Titel: RE: fglrx died installing new kernel
Verfasst am: 27.08.2006, 04:55 Uhr
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Don't suppose libc6 (2.4-1ubuntu9) would be a very good idea wouuld it? NAAAH |
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Verfasst am: 27.08.2006, 10:48 Uhr
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Why did you use the (alpha) libc6-2.4 (2.3.999.2-11) from the experimental repository ??. The normal Kanotix (Debian/sid) libc6 is (at the time of this writing) 2.3.6.ds1-4 :
Code:
root@Jacobsen:/home/jacobsen# apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev locales
libc6:
Installiert:2.3.6.ds1-4
Mögliche Pakete:2.3.6.ds1-4
Versions-Tabelle:
2.3.999.2-11 0
120 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main Packages
*** 2.3.6.ds1-4 0
990 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.3.6-15 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
libc6-dev:
Installiert:2.3.6.ds1-4
Mögliche Pakete:2.3.6.ds1-4
Versions-Tabelle:
2.3.999.2-11 0
120 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main Packages
*** 2.3.6.ds1-4 0
990 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.3.6-15 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
locales:
Installiert:2.3.6.ds1-4
Mögliche Pakete:2.3.6.ds1-4
Versions-Tabelle:
2.3.999.2-11 0
120 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main Packages
*** 2.3.6.ds1-4 0
990 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.3.6-15 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
Downgrade to the (normal Debian/sid) libc6 in a text-Console (without running KDE/X-Windows) with:
Code:
apt-get install --reinstall libc6/unstable libc6-dev/unstable locales/unstable
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Verfasst am: 27.08.2006, 21:49 Uhr
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Well, now I am in a real bind. Downgraded libc6 libc6-dev and locales, but at the same time because of apt-get's need to resolve probs first, it removed fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-slh-up-1 and xorg-driver-fglrx, but I figured that all I would have to do is run install-fglrx-debian.sh again which would fix any probs that removing fglrx-kernel-2.6.17.11-slh-up-1 and xorg-driver-fglrx would cause. Big prob is that when I tried that. I got this error [: 33: ==: unexpected operator
/usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh: 69: Syntax error: Bad substitution. Ran update-scripts-kanotix.sh and all it said was that I have latest file. I am very good at braking things. |
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Verfasst am: 28.08.2006, 05:02 Uhr
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Well. Stupidity can realy muck one up. While I was running dpkg -reconfig I got enamoured with dash. Ooooops . That fixed my last post. I have to give h2 a big thankyou and a round of applause for his du-fixed. ran graphics and also probably Hack-o-Master suggestion also of downgrading to unstable pulled in drapper instead of edgy so that every thing is sitting pretty. Now to clean out some of that stuff dpkg -reconfig decided that I desperately needed. |
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Verfasst am: 28.08.2006, 11:40 Uhr
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If I was you, I would seriously leave it alone.
Run apt-get clean & apt-get autoclean
This is not Unbutu, I have no idea why you are installing stuff from "drapper" or "edgy"
Anytime you do install anything related to ubuntu, you will b0rk your system ! |
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Verfasst am: 28.08.2006, 18:04 Uhr
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Everything is running fine now, but when I ran into trouble all I did was run kanotix-update-gui, and I noticed that the site it was pulling the fglrx files were from ubuntu, I have no clue why? Is there some way of replacing those files with debian so that this doesn't happen in the future? I must say that this was an interesting learning experiance. |
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Verfasst am: 28.08.2006, 18:08 Uhr
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What's in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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Verfasst am: 28.08.2006, 18:58 Uhr
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I am not at my box right now, but I do know I have no ubuntu sites, and other then specialty sites, such as kanotix, they are debian mirrors (I have several listed just because the sites themselves occasionally have gliches, and it is always nice to have an alternative) |
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Titel: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Verfasst am: 29.08.2006, 03:45 Uhr
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are you mixing ubuntu and debian?
cos that, im afraid, is REALLY SILLY
stop it now |
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Zuletzt bearbeitet von etorix am 29.08.2006, 04:40 Uhr, insgesamt ein Mal bearbeitet
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Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Verfasst am: 29.08.2006, 04:25 Uhr
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I don't think mixing debian repos is always a good idea...as some repos may use diff dependencies for their packages that could possibly BREAK your system. |
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Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Verfasst am: 29.08.2006, 05:53 Uhr
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I am not intentionally. I have spent over an hour checking most of my packages. I found an **censored** (censored they proper name of the pkg) skin pkg, a java fonts pkg, and a screen-saver (which I am purging now), WHY AM I THE STUPID IDIOT WHEN ALL I DID WAS USE KANOTIX-UPDATE-GUI WHICH YOU GUYS HIGHLY RECOMMEND WHICH WAS THE SCRIPT THAT STARTED THE WHOLE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE BY TRYING TO LOAD ONTO MY MACHINE A GRAPHICS PACKAGE WITH DEPENDENCY PROBLEMS FROM AN UBUNTU SITE. Now I know oneis not suppose to shout, but you started shouting atme and calling me stupid in the first place. I do not have any ubuntu sites listed in my sources list. I have no clueas to why YOUR script downloaded from ubuntu other then I made a mistake when doing a dist-upgrade by allowing it to upgrade a couple of my files from unstable. I fixed that. But if the scripts that you guys are so proud of for upgrading kernels (which I am very thankful), cannot check for dependencies, this problem will occationally occur. Maybe instead of shouting at each other and calling people names, we can learn from this and improve the product even more. By the way I did check the maintainers for flgrx and it is ATI, but if you check their dependencies, you will find (although it does not say so) based on ubuntu, because the version that kanotix-update-gui first pulled had a dependency that only exists in ubuntu. Try a machine with an ATI card on it put libc6 (2.3.999.2-11) on it and see for yourself what happens (unless of course there has to be other factors involved of which I have no clue, time or knowledge). I do thank each of you for you input in resolving my difficulties. |
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Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Verfasst am: 29.08.2006, 06:07 Uhr
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My machine
piper@KanotixBox:~$ infobash -v3
Host/Kernel/OS "KanotixBox" running Linux 2.6.17.11-kanotix-1 i686 [ KANOTIX 2006 Easter ]
CPU Info AMD Athlon XP 2400+ 256 KB cache flags( - ) clocked at [ 2000.448 MHz ]
Videocard ATI Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] X.Org 7.0.23 [ 1024x768 @85hz ]
Network cards VIA VT6102 [Rhine-II], at port: e400
Processes 87 | Uptime 10:58 | Memory 697.938/756.859MB | HDD Maxtor 6Y160P0 Size 163GB (61%used) | GLX Renderer RADEON 9800 Pro Generic | GLX Version 2.0.6011 (8.28.8) | Client Shell | Infobash v2.50rc15
It is a ATI driver and is NOT ubuntu, although the "header file" says ubuntu/dapper, it is not ubuntu.
The libc6, I have no idea where you got that from, I can take a guess, "maybe" experimental (xorg 7.1) , not sure, i had 7.1 and don't remember that, but I know you did not get that buy running the ATI script as this forum and IRC would be flooded with the same problem. I run ATI myself. Maybe someone else can explain better than me. |
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Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Verfasst am: 29.08.2006, 07:44 Uhr
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I don't think I got it from the ATI script. It might have been in a foolish moment when I included expermental in preferences then thought better of it but not before (2.3.999.2-11) snuck in. But I do know that when I ran kanotix-update-gui the first time everything went sour on me, the version that got loaded had as a dependency 2.4, and the only place I could find that version was in edgy, and that is the only reason that this particular part of the discussion got started. I had nothing to do with wanting that version of fglrx, I had no choice , and like I pointed out before the whole thing got straightened out when someone kindly pointed out to me that I had a bad version of libc6 loaded. By the way I think I was one of those hit by xorg 7.1 so it might have been then that libc6 got introduced. As things are going fine now may I suggest the subject closed. |
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Titel: RE: pulled in drapper instead of edgy
Verfasst am: 29.08.2006, 14:39 Uhr
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